I think we all would be astonished beyond belief to learn the astronomical number of our brothers and sisters in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who have suffered and died in ungodly mental anguish and emotional pain, in the belief that they would have to suffer forever in the raging flames of an eternal hell. Their selves along with most of their loving family members, friends and acquaintances. For trillions and trillions of years of day and night endless torment to last forever. All brought about by a deceived Christianity that continue around this world to believe and teach the most ugly, monumental lie that has ever come out from Satan the devil, being palette fed to a docile flock of his followers within most all of Christianity. Taking it in hook, line and sinker, while being in denial of the word of God. As being recorded here in 2nd Corinthians 4:4 ….  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

I hope you’ll take time to read some of the effects this ongoing lie has caused so many. My friend Rodger Tutt gives his testimony below. Rodger experienced a nervous breakdown lasting twelve years attempting to cope with the hell hoax of a deceived Christianity. I have posted it here to help all who may be having, or have had similar experiences. May the God of all heaven and earth open your mind to receive the most wonderful truth of all time. That the purpose and plan of God from the very beginning has been to reconcile all things in heaven and earth back to Himself. He sent His beloved Son Jesus Christ here to earth to be born human, of a human mother, to grow and develop and in his early thirty years, to willingly die a horrible painful death of crucifiction to take upon himself the sins of all who would ever live. Accepting upon himself the required penalty for all sin, for all time.  Believe what God has left recorded in your own bibles!

Leith Cunningham


The testimony of rodger tutt

I would like to start a new thread specifically about both the negative and positive sides of my testimony in case it might be a help to other members, or surfers, or lurkers, of this forum who have, or are experiencing what I went through for similar reasons.

I'm 70 years old, and had I known that evidence existed that a correctly (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible does not teach that anyone will suffer forever I never would have had a horrific twelve year nervous breakdown (1966-78) over my inability to love an endless-hell god.


From my earliest memories of my childhood I was taught by my parents and Sunday School teachers and pastors that if I didn't believe the Bible is the word of God then God will throw me into hell fire after I died where I would suffer forever. These were the people on whom I relied to tell me the truth, and I was afraid not to believe them.

If I had not been taught that about the Bible I am sure that I would have chosen to live out my life as an agnostic, rather than put my trust in a book that taught that there is a god who is going to sustain people alive in an inescapable state of suffering forever.

I think that probably most of the agnosticim in this world is caused by people choosing to live out their lives as agnostics, rather than put their trust in a book that teaches such a god as the ETers (eternal tomentors) claim to love and worship.

Many agnostics are decent people who try their best to be as good as they can be simply because they want to treat other people with love and respect, the same way that they would like to be treated too. But they would rather live out their life and die in the hope that they will find out that God is not like the eternal tormentors claim He is.

This has become my attitude too. Were it not for the fact that I have discovered evidence that the Bible does not teach an ET god, then I too would rather live out my life as an agnostic and hope for the best after I die, rather than pretend to love and respect an eternal hell god.

When I was seven my stepmother lit a fire in a beaker and said to me, "If you don't open your heart's door to Jesus and invite Him in, God is going to put you into a fire much bigger and hotter than that after you die and He will never ever let you get out of it.”

So in my heart I prayed the way she said that I had to.

Awhile later she said it's obvious that you still are not saved because you are still such a bad boy.

At that point in time I felt totally hopeless, and I was sure that God had given up on me.

My Dad used to beat me with a bamboo cane repeatedly shouting "In Jesus Name, in Jesus Name," until the welts on my legs would bleed. He told me that it was easy to tell at an early age that I was going to go to hell.

Then they both sent me away to a foster home because they could no longer cope with my bad behavior. My real mother had died giving birth to me. My Dad's second wife had died at child birth too but the child did not live either. So at the age of seven I became convinced that everyone had given up on me, including God.

Later, at the age of 28 (I'm 70 now) I began a twelve year nervous breakdown over my inability to successfully emotionally cope with the idea that God lets any creature suffer forever. I was only able to recover by learning that there are no verses in the Bible that teach endless suffering in hell for anyone. See
BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED – John Wesley Hanson... Bible Threatenings Explained


Now I’m a Christian Biblical Universal Transformationist.

Before you brush off my assertion by saying “there is no such a thing,” think about the following.

Ray Prinzing is my hero and mentor.
His many writings can be Googled up and read online.
Just type in Ray Prinzing.

During my twelve year nervous breakdown (1966-78) caused by my inability to emotionally cope with the idea that God lets any creature suffer forever in hell, every morning, as I washed my family’s dishes, I would listen to one of Ray Prinzing’s many tapes.

I have listened to 178 of them several times, and 23 of them many times
In addition to these tapes, I always read every issue of his periodical GOSPEL ECHOES which he later renamed LETTERS OF TRUTH and gleaned many pages of his writings into my personal journal.

Many people have a hero, someone in their life that made a contribution to their welfare so significant that it is far above the influence that anyone else has had.

Ray Prinzing is that hero to me.

For several years my 96 year old dad called me from his nursing home each evening. Each time he called I read a portion of my over four thousand page journal to him, and many of these readings are the gleanings that I wrote from Ray Prinzing’s writings and tapes. Many nights my dad fell asleep listening to one of Ray’s tapes.

As I listened to Ray’s tapes during my nervous breakdown (1966-78) I gradually became more and more sure that I was going to recover. The contents of his tapes gave me the courage, in 1978, to take a public stand that I believe that the Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation. (I’m 70 years old now)

My panic attacks completely stopped.

And now I spend most of my time offering people, in various ways, the information that helped me recover and helps me stayed recovered, and I am pleased to report that I have a lot of evidence that the info I post has helped, and is helping many other people in the same way that it helped me.

Ray Prinzing has now passed on, but his influence is so wide spread that he will not be forgotten on this earth for many, many years, if ever. And that is a very good thing!

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/714485-testimony-rodger-tutt-gospel-lutheran-hell.html#ixzz1v4vlnWo1

Read what is being said below in the snippets of Rodger Tutt, from other folks of all walks of life. Then ask yourself the question, how is it that you or anyone can continue to support this type of belief and teaching from a supposed God of love? It defies all logical or godly reasoning.

by rodgertutt » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:36 pm

“Most Christian ministers seek only to search out passages of scripture that corroborate the eternal hell school of theology to which they belong; and whatever passages are unfortunately found in conflict are put through the required interpretations and contortions to disqualify for entry. Christian ministers all have posts to fill; they have a job to hold down; wherefore they dare not reach out for truth lest they should see too much and their conscience disturb them and their livelihood be imperiled.”

by rodgertutt » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:22 am
#16 – A SNIPPET FROM THE DOCTRINE OF ETERNAL TORMENTS OVERTHROWN – by Samuel Richardson, edited by Thomas Whittemore, and published by him in 1833. On page 85, Whittemore says that Richardson wrote this book nearly 200 years before 1833.

First of all, there is what Richardson wrote nearly 200 years before 1833: “The doctrine of endless hell torments hath caused many to murder themselves, taking away their own lives by poison, stabbing, drowning, hanging, strangling, and shooting themselves, casting themselves out of windows, and from high places, to break their necks and by other kinds of death, that they might not live to increase their sin, and increase their torments in hell.”

Now here is what Whittemore the editor, wrote at the bottom of the page nearly 200 years later in 1833:
“Here we see the same dreadful effects attended the doctrine of endless misery nearly 200 years ago which attend it now. It was then the cause of anxiety, despair, and suicide, as we suppose it always was before, where fully believed, and as we know it has been of late years. Let posterity know, that within the last ten years, there have been a large number of suicides, which must be attributed to the doctrine of endless torment. That doctrine makes men melancholy; it drives them to despair; they know not what to do; and they sever the brittle thread, Fathers and Mothers, in repeated instances in the United States, have murdered their children, lest they should grow up, and commit sin, and be damned. Can a doctrine which produces such dreadful consequences be the doctrine of God?” End of Quote.

by rodgertutt » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:38 pm

“All creation remains within the care and keeping of its Creator. The vessels which become marred never leave the hand of the Potter; they are marred while still in His hand. The lesson that was taught Jeremiah (Jer. 18:4), though to be interpreted as relating to Israel, nevertheless embodies a principle which is sustained throughout the whole outworking of God’s purpose. He holds all in the hollow of His hand, and though He may allow, and even cause, some of His creatures to temporarily turn away from Him, He never lets them go. That is why Paul can write in Romans 8:20, ‘For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation that the creation itself , also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God.”

by rodgertutt » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:54 pm
(possibly the most eloquent of all the UR writers)

“A time is coming when Christ, the Beloved Himself, stands before His Father Who is Love, with the entire universe in train. What a thrilling reception, what a glorious presentation that will be! The great end for which the God of expectation waited, in perfect assurance, and for which Christ gave Himself. How fully will such a conclusion accord with the delight of His will!

There was a time when such greatness of salvation was more widely believed. But the imposed beliefs of the dark ages spoiled all this. Christendom was held as with iron bands in the grip of priest-ridden assent. And although their teaching is kept in the background, it is still there, giving that fatal bias which so clouds the perception of grace. Thus, we find resort to the limiting of Scripture by Scripture, to the seeing of finality when God’s purpose is in continuance, and the ignoring of those passages which so blessedly bring out the fullness and triumph of saving grace. But how happy should they be who, brought to a present belief, enjoy to the full the prospect of future salvation for all, even the reconciliation of the universe.

Stage upon stage, the Victor of Golgotha will move on His momentous and victorious way. Then will He show that ‘the Father has delivered all into His hands’ John 13:3. And in those capable hands, the world, even though it be by tumult, will be led to peace. What a perfect expression God’s grace finds in such a scene! What a realization of the truth attendant on so great a salvation! How rapturous a vision, too, of the One Who carried it to such a conclusion, Who sought until He found, Who loved until He won!”

by rodgertutt » Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:15 am

“We scan the dark ages of man and note how in the most pitiful ignorance, men, women, and children have died without the light of love – bitter, belabored and bereft of hope. All this and worse if the theories of men who limit the Gospel of Christ are right!

But why limit God? Why limit His power? Why indeed limit His plan and purposes for the ages of time? Why take part of His plan and label it as the whole? Why limit the great God of love at all, He Who is infinite love? Why indeed limit the compassion and overflowing love of Jesus ‘who gave Himself a ransom for all’? (1Tim. 2:5,6). Are not the arms of Jesus long enough or strong enough to reach out and snatch the sinner from the jaws of suffering and death, if not in this dispensation, then in the ages to come? God ‘will have all men to be saved and come into a knowledge of the truth’ (Rom. 5:18). Never let it be said that any one of us limited God in any way.”

by rodgertutt » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:22 am

“After long years of torturing doubts, God had mercy on me and turned my darkness into light, my despair into joy and my misery into exultation. He brought me into touch with His revelation, just as He had written it, apart from most of the mistranslations of well-meaning men, who were bound by creeds and tradition.

I found out that sin and suffering are confined to the eons or ages, as ‘forever’ and ‘everlasting’ should be translated. There will indeed be an awful judgment, but it will not merely punish, but set right all wrongs.

Not only will God bring all of earth’s inhabitants back into the sunlight of His love, but, through the blood of Christ’s cross, He will reconcile all to Him, whether those on the earth, or those in the heavens (Col. 1:20). The present enmity toward God on the part of terrestrial and celestial creatures will, in due time, be used as a background to display His love. That is why I no longer have torturing doubts, but revel in exultant faith.”

by rodgertutt » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:17 am

“Coming to the close of the last age, we find the earth filled with God’s righteousness. All know Him from the least to the greatest. The earth is filled with the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea. Through His own blood, Christ has reconciled all back to God. We see every tongue confessing in love and adoration Christ as Lord. This can only be done in obedience and love as it is a unanimous Praise of the Universe to the glory of God the Father (Colossians 1:20).

It is little wonder that all gladly proclaim redemption’s story. God now rises in everyone, bringing the consummation of God’s plan of the ages – a complete circle, from God in Himself to GOD ALL IN ALL.”

by rodgertutt » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:43 pm

“We cannot conceive of a Creator Who knows the end from the beginning, One Who is Love, Who has infinite wisdom, and infinite power, giving to any being life, life which is never to end, but to continue in suffering to all eternity. The Bible does not teach it anywhere in the original languages. God’s punishments are remedial and take place within the span of the ages. Punishment will last no longer than is necessary to bring man to hate his sin and be reconciled to his Saviour.”

by rodgertutt » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:31 pm

“Many do not understand the extent and purpose of God, that He is the propitiation for our sins, AND NOT OURS ONLY, but ALSO for the sins of the whole world (1John 4:10).
God is calling us to come up higher into Him and begin to see from His eyes, from His position.

God never loses! HE WINS ALL! He said, ‘Pick up the fragments, let NOTHING be lost.
This is seen from His side of the picture. We do not have a tired and frustrated God unable or unwilling to save His own creation. He will vindicate His own character and nature of love and power. Praise His Name!”

by rodgertutt » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:47 pm

"All of God's judgments are corrective measures that counteract, and also cooperate for the eventual good and reconciliation of all through Jesus Christ the Saviour of the world.

God never judges in vengeance for vengeance sake, but only for ultimate rehabilitation. He has His perfect timing to bring forth ultimate good for all. Thus many divine judgments are postponed until iniquity comes to the full (Gen. 15:16).

All must experience human failure and total depravity to the full in order to appreciate salvation when God eventually sets all things right throughout the whole universe (Isa. 9:26; and Phil. 2:10,11).

by rodgertutt » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:46 am

"The whole universe will feel the impact and glory of the cross as it takes away the sin of the world. This expression of God's influence, power, and love will continue to shine out of His own heart until all come under His sway ; saved, purified, changed, and drawn back into Himself.

None can escape the loving and corrective judgment of the Father. Nothing shall be lost or wasted. The true light is shining more and more unto that perfect day when all shall be understood – God reaching His own ultimate plan, the great cycle of love completed; God All in all, everything in everybody. This is true love in the full expression of the cross."

by rodgertutt » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:31 pm

"Babylonish religion would have us believe that everything will end when this age concludes; however, God is not the least bit influenced by man's religion since He already determined that His redemptive plan involves the ages beyond this present age. In the age of the fullness of times, all things in the heavens and on earth that have not yet been gathered into Christ, will then be gathered into Him (Eph. 1:8-10).

The will of God has been positively affirmed in this matter, for Paul wrote of God, 'Who will have all men to be saved and come into the knowledge of the truth,' (1Tim 2:4). The Lord is omnipotent and shall perform all that He has purposed concerning all mankind, 'Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient time the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE' (Is. 46:10).

by rodgertutt » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:00 am

"Because of their past teaching in the tradition of man, many will argue that man's own will shall prevent the fulfilling of God's own stated will. But according to God's word of truth wherein He cannot lie, He shall mercifully prove them to be wrong. Fortunately for mankind, God works ALL things, including man's destiny, after the counsel of His own will, and always, what His soul desires, even that He does (Job 23:13).

Believe it or not, God's intimate sovereign control is absolute and universal in scope (Job 3:7), even to the extent of man's delusions (2Thes. 1:11; Is. 66:4; Jer. 6:19). This is notably evident in the church's delusion – that God cannot successful influence the human will unless we let Him. But God has absolute control over the extent of success to which His word reaches and changes others, even to the extent of controlling what that word means to each individual (Is. 29:14; Matt. 13:11; 19:11).

It is a prophetic fact, predetermined, willed, divinely promised, and assured by the word of our faithful God Who in fact 'WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED' (1Tim. 2:4), This is true not only because 'HE IS THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN' (1Tim. 4:10), and not just of the first fruits whom He now specially causes to believe, but also because of the truth that 'HE IS NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH or be rendered unfit for the ultimate pleasure of His will (Rev. 4:11; Eph. 1:5,9; Col. 1:19,20), for 'IT IS NOT OF HIM WHO IS WILLING, NOR OF HIM WHO RUNS, BUT OF GOD (Rom. 9:16).

by rodgertutt » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:19 am

“Some believe that God’s satisfaction will be found in the eternal torment of some of His creatures. But John was not speaking of a perverted pleasure when he penned, ‘Thou hast created all things and for Thy pleasure they are and were created (Rev. 4:11). God’s plan and purpose of the ages (Eph. 3:11) is to include perfectly executed and unique stages of progressive development resulting in the final restoration and reconciliation of all.

God has been and always will be in absolute sovereign control over His entire cosmic plan, even unto its ultimate consummation in perfection. His plan for all of humanity cannot fail. All of His working together of good and evil is in perfect harmony and balance. God’s love shall not fail. His absolute power and might insures His completing of all He has willed to do, both in our individual salvation, and in the universal salvation that is sure to come.”

by rodgertutt » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:05 am

“The throne is white. May the One Who will be seated upon it keep us from painting it black. The judgment is viewed in the light of its outcome. If it leads to eternal conscious torment for all who stand before it as orthodoxy demands, then the throne is black and an outrage on justice and a heartless exhibition of fiendish cruelty.

It is only when we see that the outcome of this judgment is universal reconciliation (Col. 1:20), that we can really acknowledge that the throne is white. It is only when we limit the actual infliction of pain and penalties to the judgment era that we are able to appreciate the righteousness of God’s throne.

The judgment is as varied as the individual. It is as different as their acts. Some will suffer severely, some slightly, and all according to their deserts. But there is no reason to prolong this time to infinity. It is preparatory to their reconciliation.”

by rodgertutt » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:00 am

“Salvation through Christ will extend outward to include all people (Rom 5:18; 1Tim. 2:4-6). Indeed it is far more than that. Salvation in Christ reaches out to embrace all intelligent beings in the entirety of the universe (Eph. 1:10; Phil. 2:10,11; Col. 1:15-20). The power of God to save is all encompassing. And when God sets out to accomplish a task (such as saving the world and the universe), He will be successful – God will always be successful!

No power in the universe, including Satan himself, can thwart God’s plan to save all those within His creation. And this is precisely where Progressive Revelation leads – it leads to the truth that God will finally save all!”

by rodgertutt » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:40 pm

“Evil begins with God and is a necessary part of His plan. It is the method He uses to accomplish His purpose. Usually when man works evil he sins because His motives are wrong, but this is not true of God for His motive is always to produce good. God uses the forces of evil to bring about good.

The teaching that sin and death are eternal is a travesty of God’s character, for it presents God standing by in complacency while Satan introduces an evil that all but destroys the human race.

The purpose of evil is to establish a background for a display of God’s love and grace which we could never know apart from the experience of sin. Evil is a necessary part of God’s purpose to mold us and to fashion us in the image of His beloved Son. Evil is a problem only to those who fail to see God’s purpose in it and who refuse to believe that God will bring blessings to all mankind through His dealings with evil and sin. The forces of evil cannot continue beyond the circumference of God’s purpose in it. God always has control over the forces of evil and evil never has any power apart from the authority of God. God has complete control over Satan and all of his activities.

The teaching that sin is to continue eternally blinds our minds to an understanding of the purpose of evil. Those who have made the greatest progress in seeking out the revelation of the cross no longer consider evil to be a problem, for the cross of Christ will turn all the evil of sin into infinite good. God will do infinitely more than repudiate sin and abolish death. He will not simply restore the human race to the status of Adam in the garden.

Even if one person were to suffer endlessly because of Adam’s sin, the justice of God would be defeated. So the grace differs from Adam’s offence because it will accomplish far more than Adam lost. Then too that which resulted from Adam’s offense is temporary but the results of grace will be permanent. Grace more than meets the need for it exceeds the need by far. It is enough and to spare for it is a superabundance. And this proves conclusively that the ruin caused by Adam’s sin is overcome and more by the superabundance of grace.

Before the eons, before there was any evil, before there was any sin, God designated all the events that would make sure that not one would be trapped in the forces of evil, but that all would be delivered from death and sin. God prearranged it all, from the fall of man to the glory of the consummation. Not one thing was left to chance. All was founded on His wisdom.

To some evil will never cease, or so they believe. God is never able, or at least He never tries to bring about so much good that all evil will vanish. They try to justify God with the false teaching that man is a free moral agent. But the only freedom of man that the scriptures present is the freedom that comes through the deliverance which is in Christ Jesus.”
rodgertutt   Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:34 am Location: Toronto. Canada ( End of Rodger Tutt quote )

It is my hope and prayer that something being recorded here will strike a cord with the reader. And indeed if it be the will of God, that will happen. There is a time and a place for everything under the sun according to the word of God. I believe we are now in the time and place that the truth of the reconciliation of all things in heaven and earth needs to be made clear.  That truth is now being made available to all who claim to be followers of God and Jesus Christ. We of this website are posting it here. As are many other websites posted on our site. As I claim to be an ambassador for Christ, I am doing what I consider is my privilege and honor in service to the most high God.

We find here in 2nd Corinthians 5: verse 18 - 21. "Now all these things are from God who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Therefore we are ambassadors for Christ as though God were entreating ( Plead desperately, to beg someone, beseech, implore, to ask earnestly ) through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."

Ambassador: To be faithful to the person who has sent you: Which is God. Not to become entangled with the customs where you have been sent: To this earth. Return to your homeland at the appointed time:  ( Psalms 139:16 NLT ) You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed. ( Job 14: 5 NLT. ) You have decided the length of our lives. You know how many months we will live, and we are not given a minute longer.  And the spirit shall return to God who gave it.

Your Brother in Christ,

Leith Cunningham


This area is being reserved for comments and to answer questions.

My friend and sister in the Lord Jesus Christ: Donna, in our personal conversation talks about all of us human beings having a hole in our heart that can only be filled by God. I am in total agreement with her. God must divest us of every last bit of carnality. Our God is a consuming fire according to Hebrew 12:29. He will burn all unrighteousness from our being. Until in the grand finale of all things, after death has been destroyed, God will then become all...In all! Or everything to everybody. We will all be totally in God, and God will be totally in all of us. No matter how we would like to phrase it, mankind has been created with a void that unless or until filled with God, mankind will never be complete. It is the state that He brought us forth upon this earth. We are as a cake in the process of being fully baked, being brought to fruition. Having spent the proper amount of time in the oven, under the exact heated temperature, to come forth then as a completed product. Mostly we are all as a half baked cake, we have not been heated up to the maximum degree and temperature needed to finish the process. But we all will, in the time that God determined and set forth before the world began. We all as Christians, those being called of God, are individually at different levels of understanding, conversion and commitment. Therefore we are at different stages so to speak, in the process of being fully baked in the oven of God.

But here is the really important part of the equation. It doesn’t matter at all, not one whit. God is in total control of our destiny and assures us through out His Word, that every single one who has ever lived, or ever will live, is going to end up in His kingdom as immortal, spirit beings like Himself and His Son. He speaks about it in Genesis 1:26... “ Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”. It cannot be made any clearer than this. Continue to peruse our website and others listed here to begin learning and understanding more fully, the awesome and wonderful plan that God planned out and put into effect before the world began. In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began. ( Titus 1:2 )



The real Jesus Christ revealed through the pages of our bibles and understood and discerned only as Christ determines that we receive this truth. “ I have many more things to tell you, but you cannot bear them now”. As many are being called in this hour, but few it is that shall be chosen. Things of the spirit are discerned only by the spirit, carnal, physical man cannot receive the spiritual things of God. They must be revealed by God or we cannot understand the most simple of messages. We can read the words and hear what it is saying to our soulish, natural, physical self, but the spirit of truth must be discerned through the spiritual senses. In this way we miss out completely on understanding the most basic of spiritual truth such as that written below in this letter.

 It will go right over our head and mean nothing to us, even though it is the true and accurate Word of God. Jesus Christ accepts all responsibility in seeing that we each get His truth revealed to us in the time and way that fits His own plan of redemption. And that will happen exactly and precisely as He has determined it to be within His purpose and plan of redemption and reconciliation of all things in heaven and earth. ( Universal Salvation ) Anything other than the true Savior Jesus Christ, becomes another savior, an imaginary savior, a savior unable to save but a few, a savior not able to keep any promises, a savior that lacks all of the attributes of the true Savior, a make believe savior, a savior manufactured out of our own physical, carnal mind.

Jesus Christ, the Son of God is the Savior of the world. He is the Savior of all mankind. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. ( 1 Timothy 2: 3 - 6 ) 2-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; ( Notice it doesn’t say, a partial, an almost, or a somewhat Savior. ) 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. ( Again! How many will be saved? ) 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. And not only is He the Savior of all of humanity, He is the Savior of all creation. I hope we're beginning to get this.

Jesus Christ will reconcile all things in heaven and earth back to Himself first. After which He then subjects Himself back under God the Father who at that moment in time becomes all in all. We see this here in Colossians. ( Colossians 1: 15-20 ) 15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

We then move on here to first Corinthians, where we learn even more about the Saving grace of Jesus Christ. ( 1 Corinthians 15: 22- 28 ) For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. ( The exact same all that die will all be made alive ) 23 But each in their own turn: Christ, the first fruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. ( after death has been destroyed, the only thing left is life ) 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Make note here again of what the inspired Word of God is telling us. After which He then subjects Himself back under God the Father who at that moment in time becomes all in all. Jesus Christ, the One whom has been given all power in heaven and earth, will have accomplished the purpose and plan that his Father had given Him. Which was all of the power and authority to bring Their plan of redemption, plan of the reconciliation of all things,plan of universal salvation to fruition. Christ is not allowed to save even one less than all. After all enemies have been destroyed, the last one being death, the plan of God to reproduce Himself in mankind will have been completed. Once death has been destroyed, it will never again exist through out eternity. The only thing left after death has been destroyed, is spirit life, immortal and eternal. All of mankind will become as God and Christ are. There will be One God in a vast multitude of the company of sons and daughters, making up the One body of God. To have life as They have life, both sin and death will have become nonexistent for ever after. All that exists after this forever, will be Immortal, spirit, eternal life.

Readers of our website may tire of my repeating myself often with scripture in support of Universal Salvation, the reconciliation of all things. But it is to me the one most important yet neglected truth of the Word of God. Without acknowledging this truth, professing to accept and believe what God is saying, yet being in denial of the power, might and majesty that He has bestowed upon His Son, becomes the most grievous and insulting sin possible. It is a slap in the face of God, almost without equal. Yet as already explained, I know that it is Christ who accepts the responsibility to reveal this truth to all in His own time. Consider here, that is what He may now be doing. Your reading these words is in no way an accident, not of your own volition, you have undoubtedly been drawn here for a purpose. Christ is in total control of every aspect of our lives, and all of the time.

Men make choices and decisions every day, but something (or Someone) creates a circumstance that causes these decisions. If I scratch my body (my own choice), I do it because I have an itch. If I eat a meal (my own choice), I do so because I am hungry. If I hurt another person (my choice), I do so because they did some harm to me. For every choice we make, there is a cause greater than the choice. It is your basic cause/effect principle. For every effect (in this case our choice), there is some cause that prompted the action. As no one would deny that God is sovereign over all things (including Satan), it is God who can change circumstances as He pleases to bring about the desired effect. In this way, we may think we are totally independent from God in the choices we make, but in reality, there is Someone greater than ourselves working behind the scenes to bring about a perfectly orchestrated finale. God is the great conductor who controls and leads men to respond with a simple wave of His baton.I urge you to make good use of your time spent here perusing our site.

As we follow our God inspired admonition in gaining spiritual understanding, laid out within the Word of God. A little here, a little there, line upon line etc. Let us consider our interest in “propitiation” below is its use in the New Testament. It is a word that is employed in the context of salvation. Like the words atonement, reconciliation, redemption, and saved, propitiation conveys a particular nuance about salvation that we ought to appreciate. Propitiation is found four times in the American Standard Version of the New Testament.

Consider these passages: “Whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God” (Romans 3:25). “Wherefore it behooved him in all things to be made like unto his brethren, that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people” (Hebrews 2:17). “And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2). “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins” (1 John 4:10). For the Scriptures say, ( Romans 14: 11 ) "'As surely as I live,' says the LORD, every knee will bend to me, and every tongue will confess and give praise to God.'"

I will include comments from a website here: Many early American Christians discovered Jesus as the Savior of the whole world. I have come across hundreds of old books written in the late 1700s and early 1800s that declare in Scriptural form the Everlasting Gospel that Jesus will redeem every single soul created. One of these books had a chapter, reprinted below, that commented on 100 scriptures that declare the salvation of all mankind. I will be doing some editing since the English of today is quite different from that of 150 years ago. Any comments I may make will be in parenthesis. It was written in 1840 by Thomas Whittemore.


1. God is the Creator of all men. "He hath made of one blood, all nations of men, to dwell on all the face of the earth." Acts 17:26 He would not have created intelligent beings, had he known they were to be forever miserable. To suppose that God would bring beings into existence who he knew would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him with the utmost malignity. The existence itself would not be a blessing, but a curse; the greatness of which cannot be described. As God is infinite in knowledge, and as he sees the end from the beginning, he must have known before the creation, the result of the existence he was about to confer, and whether, upon the whole, it would be a blessing; and , as he was not under any necessity to create man, being also infinitely benevolent, he could not have conferred an existence that he knew would end in the worst possible consequences to his creatures.


3. All men, of right, belong to God. "Behold, all souls are mine," saith the Lord. "As the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine." Ezek. 18:4 God will not give up what belongeth to him, to the dominion of sin and Satan forever. All men are God's by creation; he made them all. They are his by preservation; he sustains them all. They were his at first, and they always have remained in his care. "The earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein." That God, who says to men, "If any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel," can never abandon his own creatures. He will ever exercise a gracious care over them, as will be more fully seen in the following reasons.


4. God hath given all things to Christ, as the moral Ruler of the world. "Ask of me, and I will give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession." Psalms 2:8 "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand." John 3:35 "All things," here, means all intelligent beings. So say the best commentators. (The word things is in italics in the KJV which means it is not in the Greek. We are not talking about trees here.)

5. God gave all beings to Christ that he might save them. "Thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him." John 17:2 This plainly evinces, that it was God's design, in giving Christ dominion over all flesh, that they should all enjoy eternal life.

6. It is certain that Christ will save all that the Father hath given him. "All that the Father giveth me, shall come to me, and him that cometh to me I will in nowise cast out." John 6:37 These three propositions are irrefragable evidence of the final happiness of all men. 1st. God hath given all things to Christ. 2d. All that God hath given him shall come to him; and 3d. him that cometh he will in nowise cast out. All are given; all shall come; and none shall be cast out. What is the unavoidable conclusion? ( End quote )

With these few words above of inspired scripture, we are becoming acquainted with the real Jesus Christ, the Savior of all. However, Christ has foretold us through His Word, that most will not believe Him. They in fact and truth will deny His Word. ( 1 John 5: 10 ) He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness within himself: He that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. ( John 8: 45 )  And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

( John 16: 9 ) ( NLT ) The worlds sin is unbelief in me.

( Hebrews 4:2 ) We have heard the same Good News that your ancestors heard. But the message didn't help those who heard it in the past because they didn't believe.

( Hosea 4:6 ) My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

How can this be, why do professing Christians, the people of God, disbelieve and deny the very words of the One they claim to love and follow? It is really not that much of a mystery once a person decides to believe what has been written in our own bibles, it however requires again, that we believe it. Here is what is being said about those professing to be followers of Christ on the one hand, while on the other hand denying His Word.

( 11 Corinthians 4: 4 ) In whom the god ( Satan ) of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Notice what it is that causes the people of God to be blinded, whereas they will not and cannot see or experience the glorious gospel ( good news ) of Jesus Christ. They may get a faint glimpse that will enter their mind, they may give lip service of their steadfast belief and being followers of His Word, but denying the power thereof. Do you know that we can worship Jesus Christ in vain?

Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

It is a risky business to take lightly or dismiss the word of God as untruth. The Word of God talks about a future time when this all becomes an issue. Matthew 7:21 - 23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. We find here where the people of God explained all the good deeds they had done. And it is true, Christianity has done all those things and much more. But as already shown, they have refused to believe him, and have taught as doctrine, the commandments of men.

You might ask, how have we taught for doctrine the commandments of men? That is a good question that deserves an answer. The church of Christianity, the babylon of confusion, the orthodox / mainstream  Christian church has been and is still teaching for doctrines the commandments of men in many different areas. First and foremost is their teaching that Jesus Christ the Savior of all, will not and cannot save all. of a Jesus that will either annihliate or send most all to hell to be tormented and tortured forever in the raging flames of hell is a doctrine of demons. Teaching such anti Christ doctrine causes them to be teaching for doctrine, the commandments of men, and definitely not of Christ or God.

We look a little further and deeper into the Word of God, for more understanding on why the people of God will not or cannot understand the Word. You will notice as it points out in second Thessalonians, another aspect of the cause that brings it about. It is just about as plain and easy to understand as anything can be made. Having not received the love of the truth is the cause. God sending the strong delusion becomes the effect.

( 11 Thessalonians 2: 10 - 11 ) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

The truth is that Christ spoke only in parables, to hide the truth from people, not to make it easier for them to understand as Christianity teaches their flocks. He didn't want them to hear the truth, lest they should turn and be converted. That is if we believe what He is telling us. Here from a website I just now found, is one persons insight of why this is so. Jesus said,“I Speak in Parables So They WON’T Understand.”

Why Would Jesus Do that?“All these things spoke Jesus unto the multitude in PARABLES; and without a parable spoke He not unto them.” Matt 13:34 “But without a PARABLE spoke He not unto them…” Mark 4:34 “This PARABLE spoke Jesus unto them; but they understood not what things they were which He spoke unto them.” John 10:6 Many Christians believe that Jesus taught in parables to make His message clear, but that is not biblical. Even His disciples were in the dark and did not understand. Repeatedly, they asked Jesus to explain the parables to them. “And when He was alone, they that were about Him with the twelve asked of Him the parable.

And He said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God, but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables. “That seeing they may see, and not perceived: and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted and their sins should be forgiven them. And He said unto them, Know ye not this parable? And how then will you know all parables?” Mark 4:10-13 This passage tells us that Jesus didn’t want them to understand and He didn’t want to convert them and He didn’t want to save them. Why would Jesus do that? Jesus gives the answer Himself: “And the disciples came, and said unto Him, Why do you speak unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto YOU to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but unto them it is NOT given.” Matt 13:10-11 “. . . but unto them it is NOT given.” Jesus spoke in parables the majority of the people could NOT understand!

Even Jesus’ own disciples had to have these parables explained to them. But He often did that by telling them - - another Parable! Why would Jesus do that? Because God’s plan involves calling MANY, but choosing only a FEW – at least in this eon. “(The) MANY (meaning – ALL) are called, but FEW are chosen.” Matt 22:14 Jesus said, “You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you.” John 15:16 The shocking truth is that Jesus hid the meaning of His teachings from the masses. The word Parable (Parabole in Greek: #3850 in Strong’s Concordance) means a similitude or (symbolically) fictitious narrative that conveyed a moral truth. The word Proverb (Paroimia in Greek: #3942 in Strong’s Concordance) means essentially the same thing – a fictitious illustration. But even the disciples often did not understand. Jesus taught His own disciples in private and told them: “These things have I spoken unto you in PROVERBS: but the time comes when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall show you PLAINLY of the Father.” John 16:25

By Jesus’ own admission, He didn’t teach or speak to even His own apostles “plainly.” But He promised that the time would come when He would no longer speak in proverbs but would speak plainly.

“And when He was alone, they that were about Him with the twelve asked of Him the parable.” Mark 4:10 The people did not understand Jesus’ parables; the Scribes and Pharisees did not understand Jesus’ parables – except on one occasion they “perceived” He was speaking of them – and not even the Apostles understood Jesus ‘ parables. And when Jesus explained the parables to the Apostles at their request, He often explained them with - - another Parable! Over and over, the Apostles did not understand. “And He (Jesus) said unto them (His disciples), How is it that ye do NOT understand?” Mark 8:21 “But they understood NOT that saying, and were afraid to ask him.” Mark 9:32 Jesus said unto His disciples: “Let these sayings sink down into your ears. . . But they understood NOT this saying, and it was HID from them, and they perceived it NOT; and they feared to ask Him of that saying.” Luke 9:44,45 These things understood NOT His disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified (after His resurrection) then they remembered that these things were written of Him. . .” John 12:16

Jesus taught His disciples for three and one half years. They heard Him preach and teach hundreds of times, yet they did not understand. “Then He took unto Him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold we go up to Jerusalem, and ALL THINGS that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. . . and they understood NONE of these things: and this saying was HID from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.” Luke 18:31-34 The disciples understood NOTHING concerning But at the last meeting Jesus had with His apostles after His resurrection, we read: “And He said unto them, These are the words which I spoke unto you while I was yet with you (the things they never understood) that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses in the prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning Me (meaning the entire Old Testament Scriptures). THEN, He opened their understanding, that they might understand the Scriptures.” Luke 24:44-45

Why did Jesus finally open the eyes and minds of the disciples so they could understand? “And the disciples came, and said unto Him, WHY do you speak unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto YOU to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven (but not at that specific time, but eventually – after His resurrection) but to them it is NOT given. “For whosoever has, to him shall be given (more), and he shall have more abundance; but whosoever has not, from him shall be taken away even what he has. Therefore, I speak to them in parables: because they seeing, see not; and hearing, they hear not, neither do they understand. “And in them (and in all future generations down through the centuries, except for a very small chosen few) is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which says, By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand, and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive: “For this people’s heart (those in Isaiah’s day, those in Christ’s day, and through the generation into our day) is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should HEAL (SAVE) them.” Matt 13:10-15 There could be no more precise description of the Organized Church of today! “The people draw near unto Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips: but their Heart is FAR from Me. But in vain (futility) they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men (hell fire, immortality of the soul, Sunday sacredness, Free Will – and many more false doctrines of man).” Matt 15:8-9

But to the chosen FEW, Jesus said: “But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men (all the Patriarchs of the Old Testament) have desired to see those things which you see, and have NOT seen them, and to hear those things which you hear, and have NOT heard them.” Matt 13:16-17 After Jesus’ death and resurrection, and particularly after Pentecost – when the disciples received God’s Breath of Holiness (mistranslated as “Holy Spirit”) – allowing them to understand Spiritual things – the Apostles and New Testament writers understood that the patriarchs of old, including the prophets themselves, often did not understand their own prophesies. After being given a vision, Daniel was told: “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end. . .” Daniel 12:4 But all these prophecies are being revealed to those who now, in the time of the end, are learning to KNOW God and are willing to diligently search the Scriptures.

“Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto YOU; Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit (Breath) of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the suffering of Christ, and the glory that should follow. “ Unto whom it was revealed, that NOT unto themselves, but unto US they did minister (for OUR admonition upon whom the ends of the eons are come, 1 Cor 10:11) the things, which are now reported unto YOU by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Spirit (God’s breath of Holiness), sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto YOU at the revelation of Jesus Christ.” 1 Peter 1:10-13

Conclusion: This is why theologians, pastors, and Bible scholars, and Bible translators virtually never understand the Scriptures. This is why the Organized Church is “teaching for doctrines the Commandments of men.” That is why Jesus said, “They draw near me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me.” One can understand the Scriptures ONLY when one learns to know the Lord up close and personal through daily, diligent, Bible study and prayer after one has been through terrible trouble in their life and recognizes their absolute need for God to run their life. It is then that God opens the mind and heart so one can understand Spiritual truth One can understand Spiritual truth when one has received God’s Breath of Holiness (mistranslated “Holy Spirit). Until that time, one reads the Bible literally – with sense knowledge – the use of the five senses: sight, touch, hearing, taste and smell. They are “soulish” (use the five senses) or “natural.” “The natural man (the soulish man – one who only uses the five senses) receives NOT the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because Spiritual things are Spiritually discerned.” 1 Cor 2:14

Understanding the Scriptures is not related to high intelligence, advanced religious credentials or years studying in the seminary. One can only understand the Scriptures when his heart, eyes, and mind have been opened to truth - by Jesus Christ. The “Hidden Mysteries” of the Illuminati It is interesting to note that Satan has not one original thought. Everything he does is a counterfeit of Christ. Even Satan’s followers on earth – led by the Illuminati who worship Lucifer – base their empire and hierarchy on the “Hidden Mysteries. They deliberately deceive the lower levels in Freemasonry, in the Christian “church” (the pastors and their members are deceived), in the military (even many of the Generals are deceived as to the real truth behind all the wars, and certainly the rank and file military man and woman are deceived), in the area of education (the teachers are deceived), in the field of medicine (the doctors are deceived) The hierarchy of the Illuminati speaks in code so the general population cannot understand their goals – to rule the world and destroy the vast majority of the population of the world. The goal of the Illuminati and their “Hidden Mysteries” is total destruction, whereas God’s goal for the world is Universal Restoration – through the revelation of God’s Mysteries to all mankind

The Mount of Transfiguration

After Peter, James, and John had seen Jesus transfigured on the Mount, “Jesus commanded them that they should tell no one the things they had seen, until the Son of Man had risen from the dead.” Mark 9:9 “As the disciples were commanded, we should also say nothing until the Son of Man has risen in us - - until the life of the risen Christ so dominates us that we truly understand what He taught while here on earth. “When you grow and develop the right condition inwardly, the words Jesus spoke become so clear that you are amazed you did not grasp them before. In fact, you were not able to understand them before because you had not yet developed the proper spiritual condition to deal with them “Our Lord doesn’t hide these things from us, but we are not prepared to receive them until we are in the right condition in our spiritual life. Jesus said ‘I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.’ John 16:12

“We must have a oneness with His risen life before we are prepared to bear any particular truth from Him. Do we really know anything about the indwelling of the risen life of Jesus? The evidence that we do is that His Word is becoming understandable to us. God cannot reveal anything to us if we don’t have His Spirit. And our own unyielding and head-strong opinions will effectively prevent God from revealing anything to us. But our insensible thinking will end immediately once His resurrection life has its way with us. “. . . tell no one. . .” but so many people do tell what they saw on the Mount of Transfiguration - - their mountaintop experience. They have seen a vision and they testify to it, but there is no connection between what they say and how they live. Their lives don’t add up because the Son of Man has not yet risen in them.” My Utmost for His Highest, Oswald Chambers, April 7.( end quote )

What we have to come to understand at some point in our walk with God, is that, there is a time table or frame being laid out before the world began. Titus 1:2 Everything must fit exactly and precisely within that time table as Christ has determined it to be. Nothing ever happens anywhere, at any time to cause a deviation, to knock His plan off kilter in the slightest way. Jesus Christ who has been given all power in heaven and earth. Matthew 28:18 Will not allow anything from any source to thwart or to change His afore thought out plan of redemption of all creation. It has been put into motion and will achieve its intended goal of the reconciliation of all things in heaven and earth. Colossians 1:20. He is the supreme commander of the universe and of all that exists everywhere. Christ is in absolute and total control of everything, and all of the time!

As He tells us that He can do nothing without God the Father, likewise we can do nothing without Christ. Those are not just some meaningless words linked together to fill space within the inspired Word of God. They mean exactly what is being said. From the moment that Christ breathed the first breath of life into our nostrils and we became a living ( body ) soul. Our lives and everything we do or are involved in, are all dependant upon His good pleasure. Once that breath ( or spirit ) is removed, Our spirit returns to God who had given it. The dead physical body that had been occupied by that spirit, will have immediately begin to rot and decay. If left unattended within the hour it will begin to stink and deteriorate, be infested with insects, maggots, and such. And if in an outside area will have vultures circling and other God created life forms to remove it by way of the purpose and plan of God, set down at the creation. Mankind is the crowning glory of the creation of God. Made in His own image and likeness as a temple in which He will live throughout eternity. As we all become one in Him. One God consisting of a multitude of sons and daughters.

Orthodox, mainstream Christianity, otherwise known as the Babylon of confusion, continue to flounder around within that confusion, not by any accident, but because God has put them there, until such time as He decides to bring them out. A giant part of their confusion stems from their inability to discern the difference between the physical and the spirit of truth. Much of the Word of God has been written in such a manner, none of Revelation is intended to be taken literally, yet in their confusion they continue attempting to do so. Not being able to grasp the difference and significance of that which has been written as a metaphor, as symbolism, in figurative language, or as a parable. Attempting to make everything fit into a literal mold, they come away with a mass of confusion. It is as if trying to make square pegs fit into round holes, it just does not work.

I’ll tell you right now I do not have the spiritual understanding that many others do. I will be the first to admit my lack in some areas. I also flounder around in confusion in certain areas of the truth of God. On the other hand I do now have an understanding far beyond many as well in that which I bring forth here today. Consider if you will, God may be nudging you into a deeper understanding of His truth as you read these words. More than a dozen years ago I followed the admonition of God in Revelation 18:4, and came out of this worlds Babylon of confusion. I severed my over thirty five year steady church attendance within that confusion. Since that time God has steadily been revealing greater truth to me ( as I am able to bear it ) in my understanding of His wonderful Word.

 It is not my intent to cause you to somehow feel inferior to me or to set myself up as holier than thou. I have had nothing to do with it, Christ is the director, leader and finisher of our faith. It is Christ alone who places us in the position we all find ourselves in at any given moment of time. To think otherwise is again to deny His Word telling us He has been given all power in heaven and earth. Matthew 28:18. When Christ says all power in heaven and earth has been given Him, that is exactly and precisely what those words mean. All of us may be on different levels of understanding, but that doesn’t make a hill of beans difference in that we are also brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ. We all at one time have been subjected and programmed to believe a series of lies that have no truth in them. It will require that we begin to unlearn false teachings to be replaced by the truth of God. At that time we will begin to get traction in moving ahead into the actual and awesome word of God. I will echo the same words of Christ here. “ There is so much more I want to tell you, but you cannot bear it now”. And beyond that I want to stick to helping you first to accept and believe the truth of Universal Salvation, that God will have all people to be saved and come to a perfect understanding of His Word. Christ will reconcile all things in heaven and earth back to God.

It only requires we accept and believe His Word in ( Colossians 1:20 ) as opposed to believing that which has come to us by way of the Babylon of confusion, the Christian churches of this world that have not been given the love of the truth, and as a consequence God has sent them strong delusion that they should believe a lie. This on the heels of the god of this world who has blinded them so the of the glorious gospel of Christ cannot reach them. See: 2nd Thessalonians 2:11 and 2nd Corinthians 4:4 . We can accept or reject what is being said here, we have the option of whether to believe or disbelieve the Word of God.

The God of all that exists, the One that knows the end from the beginning, the One that tells us that His purpose shall stand, and that He will do all of His pleasure, the One that tells us that He will work out all things according to the counsel of His own will. Ephesians 1:11. The mighty God who is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and immutable. The One that is the same yesterday, today and forever. The One that is so intimately connected to each one of us as He tells us here in the following verses of scripture. ( Jeremiah 1:5 ) “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

( Psalms 139: 13 - 16 NLT. ) You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb. ( 14 ) Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex! Your workmanship is marvelous - and how well I know it. ( 15 ) You watched me while I was being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb. ( Psalms 139:16 NLT ) You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed. ( Job 14: 5 NLT. ) You have decided the length of our lives. You know how many months we will live, and we are not given a minute longer.

Luke 12:6-7 King James Version (KJV) 6 Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God? 7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.

In closing this discourse, I would like to wet your appetite a little by revealing a truth from another writer whose understanding I have come to have great respect for. L. Ray Smith is also a past minister of the WCG. After his fill of what he could no longer endorse or preach to others, He also left the confines of the Babylon of confusion. Here he answers a question a lady had presented to him. It is short and to the point and sometime in the future I hope to expand upon those things he talks about. I think these following few words if seriously thought about and meditated upon would help us all to a much greater understanding.

Learn a lesson given to Darleen from L. Ray Smith: Almost everything in the entire Bible is SPIRITUALLY discerned. Jesus taught in parables so that his listeners in public would NOT understand a thing He was saying. He had to teach the meaning of these parables to His disciples in private. Once you understand thoroughly a half dozen spiritual TRUTHS, the rest is kinda easy. One will never ever understand the Scriptures with the mind set and carnal mindedness of the Christian tradition. You must understand a few spiritual Truths that are totally rejected in all religions of the world and atheists as well. Here are a few: God is totally Sovereign. That is, He is in control of EVERYTHING and ALL THE TIME. Many people actually claim to believe this, but they really don't. The words "everlasting" "evermore," "forever," "for ever AND EVER[?]," and "eternal" are nowhere found even once in any Hebrew or Greek manuscript from which our modern language bibles are translated. Man does NOT have a "free" will that can make decisions independent of his Sovereign God. Man is mortal, not immortal as Christendom teaches. Therefore, when people die, they are DEAD, not alive in a different geographical location. The ONLY hope for believers is that there will be a RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD.

[There are unscriptural] Biblical doctrines that are of no value to Christendom. They teach that dead people go to a place called hell and a place called heaven WHEN THEY ARE DEAD! Hell is not the translation of any word in either the Hebrew or Greek Manuscripts. Heaven and hades (often translated hell) are not geographical locations. God will save all mankind, seeing that He IS THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD. God is a family and not a trinity. We are under a New Covenant, and the old is passing away. God is LOVE (no really, He really is, He would never torture most of His creation in fire for all eternity). Well, there you have it. Understand those few principle and the Bible is a whole new book. With these few spiritual Truths in mind Darleen, even you can become a Biblical scholar.

God be with you,


We arrive here in conclusion to the two Saviors. One is actually Jesus Christ the true Savior of all. The One that cannot allow even one to be lost, that He will go looking for to bring back. The one that no one will snatch from his hand. No one will snatch even one out of his Father’s hand who is greater than all. The One lifted up from the earth that declares that all will come to Him, and those that come to him in no wise will be cast out. The One whose Father is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance and be saved. The One that tells us that the works of man will be burned up, but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire. The One who has left hundreds of scripture telling us this same truth. The One who has made man in His own image and likeness, to have life as He has life, the One who would never even think of torturing and tormenting man/woman/ child/ or baby, day and night in a place called hell for a never ending period of time. To watch them wiggle and squirm in severe agony and pain. What is wrong with a mind that can even conceive of such coming from the God of Love?

Now on the other hand we can take a look at a different savior of a confused religion known as orthodox or mainstream Christianity, the Babylon of confusion. Their savior is quite different, for starters he is unable to save all of mankind. He can maybe save a few, but will have to hang his head in shame and admit that he was out witted, outsmarted, and suffered defeat at the hands of Satan the devil. He tried but with having given man their phantom “Free Will” he sort of shot himself in the foot, even they were able to outfox him and he will become a laughing stock for all eternity. He was unable to keep his promises such as in Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began. and will be a source of embarrassment for His Father to live down in putting His trust and confidence in him by giving Him all power in heaven and earth. Making it questionable if anybody would even want to be in His Kingdom. I guess it’s time to ask the question ourselves. Which of these two Saviors do you want to worship and serve? All it will ever require is to reject the counterfeit and to accept the truth and believe the inspired word of God.

We have a parting admonition from God through His words to others of another time. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both you and your seed may live: Deuteronomy 30:19. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom you will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15. All the nations may walk in the name of their gods; we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever. Micah 4:5. According to the purpose and plan of God before the world began, all will be called in the order which Christ will determine it to be. All will be called, All will come in that exact and precise order, none will be cast out, the unavoidable conclusion, all will be saved. May God help you to see His truth presented here within this labor of love, that we have prepared for your own spiritual well being.